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Michael Jackson Album art Deconstructed.

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I have long been aware of a connection between Michael Jackson and myself,  he was raised Jehovah’s Witness as I was.  When he got disfellowshipped I wasn’t allowed to listen to his music anymore.  I got disfellowshipped by an elder from his congregation whose bragging rights were that he was from the congregation where Michael got disfellowshipped from.  When I got a job after being on the street off and on for 5 years, it was at the Woodland Hills Whole Foods.  I drove past his congregation on my way to work.  I once met his brother Tito shopping there.  He was rude.

Jehovah’s Witnesses believe that the archangel Michael incarnated as Jesus.  He was named after Michael the archangel, I was named after Jesus Christ.  When he died I was miserable, I cried, not because I worshipped him like his fans but because of a heart felt connection and deep understanding.  I made a painting to commemorate his Mahasamahdi because, like myself, he was a Maha Jagad Guru.

Mahasamādhi (the great and final samādhi) is the act of consciously and intentionally leaving one’s body .[1][2] A realized yogi (male) or yogini (female) who has attained the state of nirvikalpa samadhi, will, at an appropriate time, consciously exit from their body. This is known as mahasamadhi. This is not the same as the physical death that occurs for an unenlightened person.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahasam%C4%81dhi

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https://iconographicart.wordpress.com/2013/09/29/light-of-the-world/

I bought the Michael album after his death, which kind of sucked, there were only a few good songs on there.  But recently I took a closer look at the album art, and I noticed some interesting things I hadn’t seen before.  First of all it seems to be a kind of visual homage to the Beatle’s Sargent Pepper album in which the show all of the influences on the Beatle’s music.  But I also noticed a kind of flow, from up and right to down and left.

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On the right hand, which is Sol-ar, it says Sol-ve as in Sol-ution or Sol-vent and on the left hand it says Coagule, as in to Coagulate or Congeal.  What you see is a movement and a transition from Michael from his black heritage to some manner of Shamanic death with the zombies and occult symbolism (MJ got disfellowshipped for “occult themes” in the Thriller video).  Also you see a straw man of himself (Oh I wish I had a brain) crucified like Jesus with letters underneath him (INRI).  Notice a rat sitting on a swing chewing bubble gum.  Perhaps representing his missing childhood being stolen by someone and replacing him.  A dark skinned Roman statue with Fascist, Nazi-esque, Eagle symbolism paves the way for his career.  He is shown with peacock feathers behind him symbolizing pride.  You see an alien space ship, ponder that Steven Spielberg never turned on Michael and both of them seem to have an intense interest in aliens, Michael did a cameo in MIB asking if he could be agent M.  Notice how his right side is mostly red and black colors but that is also the side with the white cherub.  Notice the bilateral symmetry in the album cover.

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No notice the right side or his left side.  Notice the presence of the Egyptian symbolism in his clothing that represents Osiris, the god of Life, with Isis and Nephthys embracing them in their wings.  Notice a golden idol standing proudly and staunchly in defiance of his earlier self and childhood.  Notice that he is praising this image of himself.  Notice the cameras.  Notice he is leaning left?  Notice a black Peter Pan?  refusing to give up on the childhood he was robbed of?  Notice the Rabbit Riding a Motorcycle a Caricature of him-self, from the same video Steven Spielberg appears in?  As Michael “Exits stage Left”.  Notice the gavel in the tree that looks like the tree is flipping the bird?  True story, my dad once gave a sermon in which he used Michael Jackson’s glove as a metaphor for showy display of one’s means of life.

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Etymology[edit]

From the direction in theatrical scripts: “Exit stage left“, thus marking the disappearance of a character from the stage in the normal manner.

Noun[edit]

exit stage left (plural exits stage left)

  1. (idiomatic) An orderly and uneventful departure, timed so as not to detract or distract.  [quotations ▼]

Verb[edit]

exit stage left (third-person singular simple present exits stage left, present participle exiting stage left, simple past and past participle exited stage left)

  1. To exit or disappear in a quiet, non-dramatic fashion, making way for more interesting events.  [quotations ▼]

  2. (imperative) Leave the scene, and don’t make a fuss.

Notice the burning of the memories?  Notice the exodus of the children?  Notice the money that was created?  Notice the winged male figure embracing the female figure above Africa?  As though MJ is giving consolation to Janet in the Afterlife?  Now if you weren’t raised Jehovah’s Witness you won’t notice how similar the art on the bottom right is to their propaganda.

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Now we are going to discuss some other oddities.  What appears to be our mutual obsession with King Tut.  Now I had this epiphany before this album came out.  This blog is named after this Image because of a shamanic experience I was having be sure to click the link and check the time stamp.

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One final oddity, you will notice some similar images in his painting and mine which I only noticed a few days ago.  And I know it’s from that video in which he turns into a space ship….and I know the flash is from a camera but it also means something else.  It represents a star.

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But it’s not just that, the predominantly red side for him is also predominantly red for me, and the predominantly green side for both of us is on the left, also the recurring depiction of the peacock as representing pride.  Their is also the element of bilateral symmetry in both images.

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https://iconographicart.wordpress.com/2013/10/08/iccha-shakti-uma-kumari/

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11:11 Rabbi Ba’al Shivah

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I am trying to figure out how to tell you this, without freaking you out.  Many of you have noticed a bizarre and unexplainable energy shift at 11:11 where for no particular reason you find yourself looking at the clock at exactly that time, over and over again.  You are going to have to meditate on this in order to unlock deeper personal meaning.

In gamblingsnake eyes is the outcome of rolling the dice in a game and getting only one pip on each die. The pair of pips resembles a pair of eyes, which is appended to the term ‘snake’ because of the long-standing association of this word with treachery and betrayal. The dictionary of etymology traces that use of the term back to 1929,[1] although it may be traced all the way back to the ancient Roman dice games, where ‘Dogs’ represented two ones. They referred to this as “the dog throw”. In modern parlance, it refers to such a roll in any game involving dice. Snake eyes also refers to looking one way and passing the ball the other way in the game of Taps.

Lucifer is the god of luck.  Lucky fire.  Not in a bad way in a good way.  When the moneyed powers feel that they have all of the cards in their hands and they can’t lose the god of luck tips the scales in his favor and in the favor of the righteous.  I am telling you this because this is what was revealed to me.  I kick more light than most people but I have been waiting until the correct time in order to convey this to you.  Because you weren’t ready for it.  The continuing worsening of the world situation and opened your minds, a little, and you are able to conceive of a deeper level of meaning instead of the happy horseshit being spewed by the fruity spiritualists trying to keep you in an unconscious state of malaise.

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Each 1 symbolizes on letter in god’s name.  God is a reptilian.  He looks like a human because he is an alien hybrid.  Still he is very self conscious about his face, which is why he doesn’t like people looking at his face.  God, while being much younger and boyish looking, always looks like a youth of about 18 years of age in perfect health.  But he is self conscious about his face as it looks different to himself than it does to everybody else.  Also he is characterized by the way in which people consistently reject him and panic at what he tells them.  His relationships with people communicate to him that he is hideous and ugly.  He feels about himself the way he is treated by people.

Prosopagnosia (Greek: “prosopon” = “face”, “agnosia” = “not knowing”), also called face blindness, is a cognitive disorder of face perception where the ability to recognize faces is impaired, while other aspects of visual processing (e.g., object discrimination) and intellectual functioning (e.g., decision making) remain intact. The term originally referred to a condition following acute brain damage(acquired prosopagnosia), but a congenital or developmental form of the disorder also exists, which may affect up to 2.5% of the population.[1] The specific brain area usually associated with prosopagnosia is the fusiform gyrus,[2] which activates specifically in response to faces. Thanks to this specialization, most people recognize faces much more effectively than they do similarly complex inanimate objects. For those with prosopagnosia, the ability to recognize faces depends on the less-sensitive object recognition system.

Because he doesn’t think like other people he no longer listens to faces, being an empath and a sympath he knows what people are thinking and feeling, and he knows that faces lie.

Yaldabaoth[edit]

A lion-faced deity found on a Gnostic gem in Bernard de Montfaucon’s L’antiquité expliquée et représentée en figures may be a depiction of the Demiurge.

In the Ophite and Sethian systems, which have many affinities with that last mentioned, the making of the world is ascribed to a company of sevenarchons, whose names are given, but their chief, “Yaldabaoth” (also known as “Yaltabaoth” or “Ialdabaoth”) comes into still greater prominence.

In the Apocryphon of John c. 120-180 AD, the Demiurge arrogantly declares that he has made the world by himself:

Now the archon (ruler) who is weak has three names. The first name is Yaltabaoth, the second is Saklas (“fool”), and the third is Samael. And he is impious in his arrogance which is in him. For he said, “I am God and there is no other God beside me,” for he is ignorant of his strength, the place from which he had come.[23]

He is Demiurge and maker of man, but as a ray of light from above enters the body of man and gives him a soul, Yaldabaoth is filled with envy; he tries to limit man’s knowledge by forbidding him the fruit of knowledge in paradise. At the consummation of all things all light will return to thePleroma. But Yaldabaoth, the Demiurge, with the material world, will be cast into the lower depths.

Yaldabaoth is frequently called “the Lion-faced”, leontoeides, with the body of a serpent. We are told also[24] that the Demiurge is of a fiery nature, the words of Moses being applied to him, “the Lord our God is a burning and consuming fire,” a text which Hippolytus claims was also used by Simon.[25]

In Pistis Sophia Yaldabaoth has already sunk from his high estate and resides in Chaos, where, with his forty-nine demons, he tortures wicked souls in boiling rivers of pitch, and with other punishments (pp. 257, 382). He is an archon with the face of a lion, half flame and half darkness.

Under the name of Nebro (rebel), Yaldabaoth is called an angel in the apocryphal Gospel of Judas. He is first mentioned in “The Cosmos, Chaos, and the Underworld” as one of the twelve angels to come “into being [to] rule over chaos and the [underworld]”. He comes from heaven, his “face flashed with fire and whose appearance was defiled with blood”. Nebro creates six angels in addition to the angel Saklas to be his assistants. These six in turn create another twelve angels “with each one receiving a portion in the heavens.”

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Don’t forget that the last god in the old 7 planet astrological system is Saturn, Cronos, time, he eats his children, everybody dies.  He is the last god of death (titans) and Jupiter, Zeus, yhwh is the first god of life.  Should the gods of life not perform their duties, the authority returns to the god of death.

That is right, the creator is also the devil.  The 4 letters of his name represent the 4 elements, a world at war with itself.  Contemplate the 4 directions of the cross without a center.  Love, justice, wisdom, responsibility, as you move away from the center you move towards corrupt expression.  In order for it to be loving, just, true, and responsible it also has to be all of the other things at the same time.  They are all connected in the center, in the source.

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Bellum omnium contra omnes, a Latin phrase meaning “the war of all against all”, is the description that Thomas Hobbes gives to human existence in the state of nature thought experiment that he conducts in De Cive (1642) and Leviathan (1651). The common modern English usage is a war of “each against all” where war is rare and terms such as “competition” or “struggle” are more common.[1]
That is what necessitated god’s having to incarnate in order to sympathize with humans.
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Shin the Hebrew word for spirit is the fifth element, the Quintessence.  It is the authority of reason in man.  It harmonizes and coordinates all of the elements.  Yehoshuah, Joshua, the perfection of yahweh.
Tiferet (“Adornment”, Hebrew: תפארת [tifˈʔeʁeθ]) alternately Tifaret, Tifereth, Tyfereth or Tiphereth, is the sixth sefira in thekabbalistic Tree of Life. It has the common association of “Spirituality“, “Balance“, “Integration“, “Beauty“, “Miracles“, and “Compassion“.
In the Bahir it states: “Sixth is the adorned, glorious, delightful throne of glory, the house of the world to come. Its place is engraved in wisdom as it says ‘God said: Let there be light, and there was light.'” [1]Tiferet is the force that integrates the Sefira of Chesed (“compassion”) and Gevurah (“Strength, or Judgement (din)“). These two forces are, respectively, expansive (giving) and restrictive (receiving). Either of them without the other could not manifest the flow of Divine energy; they must be balanced in perfect proportion by balancing compassion with discipline. This balance can be seen in the role of Tiferet, wherein the conflicting forces are harmonized, and creation flowers forth. Tiferet also balances Netzach and Hod in a similar manner. In that case Hod can be seen as the intellect where Netzach is seen as emotion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiferet

Tifaret is the Solomon of the tree of life, it brings all of the righteous people from all over the world together under the auspices of reason, making everybody equal under reason, aequalitatus sub ratio.  

Now contemplate this, in the parable of the prodigal son, the son that leaves and squanders his inheritance represents mankind.  While the son that never leaves represents the angels.  The reason that the son is welcomed back is because that is the purpose of his having left.  Life on earth, exists so that we can perform THE WORK OF GOD, TO BE LIKE GOD, TO UNDERSTAND GOD, TO TAKE IN ACCURATE KNOWLEDGE OF GOD. 

Theurgy (from Greek θεουργία) describes the practice of rituals, sometimes seen as magical in nature, performed with the intention of invoking the action or evoking the presence of one or more gods, especially with the goal of uniting with the divine, achieving henosis, and perfecting oneself.

  • Proclus (c. 480): theurgy is “a power higher than all human wisdom embracing the blessings of divination, the purifying powers of initiation and in a word all the operations of divine possession”[1]
  • Keith Thomas: “Spiritual magic or theurgy was based on the idea that one could reach God in an ascent up the scale of creation made possible by a rigorous course of prayer, fasting and devotional preparation.”[2]
  • Anne Sheppard: “Theurgy, the religious magic practised by the later Neoplatonists, has been commonly regarded as the point at which Neoplatonism degenerates into magic, superstition and irrationalism. A superficial glance at the ancient lives of the Neoplatonists, and in particular at Eunapius‘ Lives of the Sophists, reveals a group of people interested in animating statues, favoured with visions of gods and demons, and skilled in rain-making”[3]
  • Pierre A. Riffard: “Theurgy is a type of magic. It consists of a set of magical practices performed to evoke beneficent spirits in order to see them or know them or in order to influence them, for instance by forcing them to animate a statue, to inhabit a human being (such as a medium), or to disclose mysteries.”[4]

Theurgy is the work of god. 

I can’t find any good sources online but the word theater comes from the word theory and theurgy.  Both of which have the greek word theos (god) enthusiastic, enthusiasmos, en theos, in god.
Psychodrama is an action method, often used as a psychotherapy, in which clients use spontaneous dramatizationrole playing and dramatic self-presentation to investigate and gain insight into their lives.[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychodrama
Psalm 8a

For the director of music. According to gittith.b A psalm of David.

1Lord, our Lord, how majestic is your name in all the earth!  You have set your glory in the heavens.

2Through the praise of children and infants you have established a stronghold against your enemies, to silence the foe and the avenger.  3When I consider your heavens, the work of your fingers, the moon and the stars, which you have set in place, 4what is mankind that you are mindful of them, human beings that you care for them?c 5You have made themd a little lower than the angels and crowned themf with glory and honor.  6You made them rulers over the works of your hands; you put everything under theirg feet: 7all flocks and herds,and the animals of the wild,8the birds in the sky,and the fish in the sea,all that swim the paths of the seas.

(Joshua and Kimberly, read Hebrews 1, the whole chapter and meditate on it.)

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No such thing as a private language?

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Don’t get it twisted, I love Ludwig Wittgenstein, I think he was brilliant and misunderstood, but I disagree with him on the concept that there is no such thing as a private language, because language exists for the purpose of communicating with other people.  I thought I had misunderstood, or that somebody else had explained what he thought incorrectly.  Allow me to explain…

In linguistics, a morpheme is the smallest grammatical unit in a language. The field of study dedicated to morphemes is called morphology. A morpheme is not identical to a word, and the principal difference between the two is that a morpheme may or may not stand alone, whereas a word, by definition, is freestanding. Every word comprises one or more morphemes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morpheme

Morphemes are the smallest units of language that contain data.  So if a unit of language contains data for me and nobody else that is a private language, even though it might be very small.  So, If I can prove that a language exists that only communicates data to me and for me, that nobody else can communicate or understand his argument is invalid and a private language exists.  Enter the evidence:

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Here is a picture of my shorthand, which has been evolving, I taught myself shorthand in one night and since then I have been slowly morphing it into my own shorthand, replacing symbols that do not remember me to myself with other figures that are more recollect-able.  I know that from the perspective of an outside party, even one that knows shorthand their will be in this symbols that communicate no data to them.  So unless one is willing to make the argument that since the person who wrote it is different from the person who reads it and remembers it, both being myself, but separated by time, my case stands.  This is actually a piece called The Highest Ineffable Tao that I wrote a while back.  https://thoughtuncommon.wordpress.com/2014/01/02/the-way-of-the-highest-ineffable-tao/

Furthermore, if you look at my dichotomy of analytical data verses emotional data, you will realize that when Michael Jackson names his son “Blanket” that name sounds strange to just about everybody, but it communicates emotional data to himself because the word has a positive emotional association for him.  So it has data for him that is not readily transmittable to everybody else.  So you see private languages do exist. http://terminclature.wordpress.com/2013/09/14/emotional-data-definition-by-joxuashivah/

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How Feminine Thinking Prevents the Wisest Solutions.

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Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.
Maimonides

For the sake of being as analytical as possible I want to break this down into a math problem.

A = man that knows how to fish,

B = Man that doesn’t know how to fish

F = the knowledge of how to procure fish.

Now the solution that creates the most value, based on my system of efficiency towards value, is B makes himself like A.  B turns into A.  Other possible permutations include.  A keeps on giving B fish.  This could be done happily or begrudgingly, A could be being forced by some external moral authority to continue giving fish to B.  Or A could be using fish as some sort of currency to get something in return, perhaps a sense of dependency, or superiority, or moral high ground.  The worst solution that creates the least value is if A makes himself like B.

B + F = A

A – F = B

Now there is a transition period as B makes himself or is made in the image of A.  If A participates happily there is no problem, but if B participates begrudgingly and his survival depends on his learning how to fish, there are two options, A can leave him to die, or if that is not an option, force B to learn how to fish.

Seems pretty obvious and logical doesn’t it?  But then when we turn around and replace A, B, and F with specific people and skills we see that all of the intellectual confusion set in, because we invite the judgments of the stupid majority.

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Now I am not a heartless bastard as some would have you think or as you yourself might think.  What I am is a rational person who will not be forced to do anything that will fail or that is irrational.  I want you to try to keep your emotions from clouding your judgments if you can.  I call the above picture a type of “emotional pornography”.  Yes, there is a problem and bad stuff is happening in the world.  My question is, “what is the best solution that creates the most value for the most people?”

You might ask yourself with people like Michael Jackson and Oprah Winfry wrapping their minds and millions around the problem why does it still persist?  And this is the thing understanding the problem.  If you are not willing to understand the problem and use your own resources to solve it you have no business using the chicken head fallacy or the chicken hawk fallacy and arguing for what other people should do with their resources to be a part of the problem.

First of all, what kind of people conceive children in circumstances like that?  Exposing their children to that living situation?  I don’t want to hear your intellectual faggotry on the subject, calm your tits and keep your emotional appeals to yourself.  Part of the reason that throwing money and food at the problem doesn’t work is the same reason that throwing sugar into a bottle conditioned beer is ill advised, sugar awakens the yeasts which explode to life, and then you have a bigger problem, more of what you didn’t want in the first place.  You are rewarding failure.  What happened to the air dropped food that was sent to Africa?  Men with guns picked it up and recruited young soldiers.  They said, If you want to eat you are going to be a part of our gang and you are going to kill our enemies.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_emotion

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In my system, superficial aesthetic snap decisions are products of the female mind.  Every individual has both a male mind and a female mind and one of them is dominant.  Sentimentality, and emotional thinking prevents the wisest solutions that create the most value for the most people from being institutionalized.  The Wise person says, “This is the wisest course of action.”  and then the sentimental, uneducated, female mind which can be recognized by its emotional appeals and its attempt to expand and increase its own authority through mercy and charity speaks up and says, ” Do we really know that is the wisest solution?  Somebody should do something right now!  Look at them!  They are suffering!”  The female mind uses doubt, guilt, shame, and causes the hesitation to act on the wisest solution.

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What is further fascinating is that the female mind in blocking the wise solution never finds out that it’s own solution is the inferior solution.  A child bumps it’s head and the mother in relationship with her own authority, proving that she is the better parent, swoops down on the child, coddling it and communicating to it through her face and voice that something terrible has happened.  The baby reacts not to the sensation analytically but responds to the mothers emotional data, and starts crying believing that something terrible has happened to itself.  The same thing happens with the father there and the father says nothing and doesn’t react.  The child looks around, thinks to itself, “that didn’t feel that good, I should probably not do that in the future.”  and toddles off a little wiser for the experience.  Until the mother can control her instinct she will continue to react preemptively and she will never realize that their is a better wiser solution.

All of these charities disgust me, parading their images of starving children and kicked puppies in front of everyone.  It is emotional pornography.  They want your money and they want to extend their influence and authority.  There is no such thing as a 100% altruist.  Everybody is doing what they are doing for their own benefit in one way or another.  If they aren’t doing it because they love to do it then they are doing it for some other reason. They want to communicate to you that they are good people, trust them, they are harmless.  I never trust people that attempt to appear harmless and good.  I would be a fool to trust anybody that would tell me that they are harmless and good.  Why would they tell me that in the first place?  To manipulate me?  To take advantage of me?  I never tell people that I am harmless or good.  If they ask me that then they are an idiot in the first place.

Matthew 6:5

New International Version
“And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full.

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Light of The World, Iconographic Art of Joxua MourningStar

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I started painting this after Michael Jackson’s untimely demise.  It was devastating for me.  I didn’t get to go to his funeral either, I wish I had gone because they changed their minds and let people in and I would have gotten to go in.  

You see, I was raised Jehovah’s Witness.  MJ and I have a connection.  When he was disfellowshipped I was no longer allowed to listen to his music.  My family was very strict.  Peter Appleton an elder from his congregation harassed me when I was dating my first girl friend who was coming to meetings but who hadn’t been baptized.  He threatened to disfellowship me if I didn’t stop seeing her.  It was ironic because he had 7 ex-wives and 20 children none of whom had ever been baptized and yet he was in good standing.  I sold all of my shit and disappeared to Washington state with my fiance.  Things didn’t work out and I ended up on the street.  I felt literally no connection with my family so I never even thought to call them.  Everybody thought I was dead and I am glad.  I am dead to them.  

Long story short I ended up moving to Woodland Hills and I got hired at Whole Foods.  On the way to work I would drive past MJ’s congregation, it was a weird coincidence.  I also ran into one of his brothers, Tito, he was unpleasant. 

I know that Michael was attracted to boys that age because he wanted to save himself at that age.  He was sympathetic to them being a child star as he was with an overbearing father.  He was trying to rescue himself by rescuing them.  I know what it is like to be a misunderstood ecstatic mystic.  He wasn’t trying to throw his baby over the balcony he was enthusiastic, he wanted to share his happiness with the people that loved him.  He would never hurt that baby, he loved it more than his own life.  He just wasn’t thinking about how he looked he was thinking about how he felt.  

I feel bad for people like Michael and Tom Cruise.  I think about what a man has to do to try to ensure he has access to his kids in this day and age when you are rich and powerful and male and everybody wants a piece of you.  You want to be an influence in their lives.  This culture hates masculinity, intelligence, and talent.  We are surrounded by morons that feel thwarted by their lack of…. everything, but especially talent.  It is as though they think awesomeness is a finite resource and people like us and Charlie Sheen are using too much of it. 

Michael Jackson was a Maha Jagad Guru a world teacher.  He touched every person in the world.  He changed global culture.  He was a creative Genius.  He was in his way a shaktipat guru.  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_of_the_World

Light of the world is done as a visual homage to Shiva Nataraja.  MJ is dancing in the sun.  See Michael and I are named after the same namesake Joxua was Jesus name when he was incarnate, but Witnesses believe that before he incarnated he was the archangel Michael, so the synchronicities never really cease.  I was always hoping that maybe Janet Jackson would buy this from me.  I feel that she and his children are the one’s that received his guru grace.  He passed on his spiritual lineage to them.  Even now I am tearing up as I write this.  It is cathartic.  I get so much shit for my feelings about Michael, but that doesn’t stop me.  I don’t care, haters gonna hate. 

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